Pleasure in Pain

Finding magic in the muck on the Appalachian Trail

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“We don’t have to live in a constant state of struggle, yet life would be pretty boring if it was smooth sailing all the time.”

— Heather Daya Rideout


Most of us want to speed through the hard times; we want to get to a place where life feels smooth and easy.

But what if the line between good times and bad isn’t so black and white? What if hardship can actually be enjoyable?

On this episode, Heather Daya Rideout takes us from the beaches of Thailand to the mountains of Maine, and tells of a an encounter with strangers on the Appalachian Trail that completely changed her perspective on pleasure and pain.


Special thanks to Amah Devi for help with recording this episode.


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