Why are some people so good at keeping their cool?

David Klebosky on a backpacking trip in the grand canyon (Photo courtesy David Klebosky)

“He never looked at the world as a threat; he looked at it as things you could learn or experience.”
— Tom Klebosky

When David Klebosky was out in the desert earlier this year, he ended up being shot at. The gunfire wasn’t malicious, but there were bullets coming at him.

Yet David didn’t freak out.

Turns out, this kind of response is typical for David; he always seems to remain calm in the face of stress. Whether it’s an outdoor adventure that goes awry, or uncertainty about his career, he manages to keep his cool.

On this episode, producer Max Wasserman delves into David’s past and explores what makes some of us so unflappable.

Max Wasserman is the producer of Everytown, a podcast about a shadow campaign to remove immigrants from one of the wealthiest parts of the country. It's a serialized show with elements of mystery and news, exactly the type of thing you’d enjoy if you liked Serial Season 3. Listen wherever you get your podcasts.